tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28883993.post116184287991756365..comments2023-09-19T10:04:11.022-05:00Comments on Hitting Bedrock: Shelley: atheistic champion of reasonTobyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17890488229980159198noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28883993.post-1161920939901177872006-10-26T22:48:00.000-05:002006-10-26T22:48:00.000-05:00Because Ahmadinejad, for all his sound and fury, h...Because Ahmadinejad, for all his sound and fury, has never done anything to suggest he's not a rational thinker. From an Iranian point of view, the pursuit of nuclear weapons is a reasonable and entirely well-thought-out goal - particularly considering the way non-nuclear Iraq has been toppled while nuclear North Korea rests undisturbed.<BR/><BR/>His loud rhetoric plays well to the committed religious partisans who motivate much of Iranian politics despite comprising perhaps only 20% of the population. This is Ahmadinejad's base, and he has to tell them what they want to hear. This doesn't mean he doesn't believe it (he really does want Israel wiped off the map, as do many Persian and Arab fundamentalists). But he's also a shrewd politician and, as far as I can tell, has a functional grasp of the underlying strategic fundamentals. He knows that using a nuclear weapon against Israel (and it will be years before he has even one) will provoke cataclysmic retaliation from Israel and the US.<BR/><BR/>Ahmadinejad's overarching strategic goal is to transform Iran into a regional hegemon while maintaining the security and "purity" of the Islamic state - this is the central rationale for seeking nuclear weapons. Actually *using* any nukes would simply transform Iran into a radioactive crater. Ahmadinejad, though not exactly to sort of person we want at the head of a rising petropower, at least understands this much.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01188446103865918075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28883993.post-1161907901279734572006-10-26T19:11:00.000-05:002006-10-26T19:11:00.000-05:00I think that Juan Cole, in almost every situation,...I think that Juan Cole, in almost every situation, can be taken at face value. It's not possible for an Iranian leader (or many other Middle Eastern leaders, for that matter) to get elected or govern without playing to some degree to anti-Israel sentiment. Not beign a Farsi speaker myself, I'll take Juan Cole's word for it. I've never really bought the prospect that Ahmadinejad was a deranged terrorist; his calls for the end of Israel, though certainly sincere, seem to be more of the someday-in-the-distant-future wishful thinking vein.<BR/><BR/>That said, there's no seriously denying that he and his government are vigorously pursuing nuclear weapons. While I don't think they'd ever consider using them against Israel (contrary to media alarmism) - the prospect is too nightmarish on too many other levels to be allowed.<BR/><BR/>As for how to stop it, that's another debate entirely.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01188446103865918075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28883993.post-1161895159920184402006-10-26T15:39:00.000-05:002006-10-26T15:39:00.000-05:00This post was pretty incidental. It wasn't really ...This post was pretty incidental. It wasn't really meant as a response to the main substance of the article. (That might come later.)<BR/><BR/>And it wasn't meant to be a response to you in particular. As far as that goes: what do you think of Juan Cole's claim that (contrary to most media accounts) Ahmadinejad hasn't actually called for the violent destruction of Israel?Tobyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17890488229980159198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28883993.post-1161880198542608362006-10-26T11:29:00.000-05:002006-10-26T11:29:00.000-05:00You see, this is why I don't contribute much to on...You see, this is why I don't contribute much to online philosophical discussions. Boyle and Hooke I recall from Chem and Bio classes, but Kant is a dimly remembered specter in a ten-years-gone Poli 201 class. I gave an hours-long presentation on the damn guy and I still can't remember anything he said, except a vague recollection of something about duty. And I know more about Kant than more or less any other philosopher... Shelley is just the husband of Mrs. Frankenstein to me. Just don't have much of a head for philosophy - certainly not enough to keep up with you folk.<BR/><BR/>Now, if we want to debate nuclear non-proliferation or Vito Fossella's chances in the New York 13th, let me in. Otherwise I'm a bit out of my depth here.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01188446103865918075noreply@blogger.com